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Father Snuggles
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Posted - 2013.03.27 21:47:00 -
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I support this candidacy. Regardless of what happens in New Eden over the next 12 years, at least we'll have DIE SPACE AUTOBAHN to enjoy afterwards. |

Father Snuggles
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Posted - 2013.03.27 23:21:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Verlai wrote:I believe the biggest issue facing EVE is that of the economy. This rampant inflation is a serious issue that must finally be faced. Do you have any solution? Invade Poland?
No, I don't believe that would be final enough as per his insinuation, you clearly missed what he was getting at. You should probably concentrate more when reading through posts before quoting them. It wouldn't be too outlandish to look into courses furthering your abilities in that regard.
Perchance there are specialised group courses of sorts specialized in cognitive focus, possibly even ones providing outdoor accomodation to some extent in remote, cordoned-off areas. Hell, these could even be guarded.
You know...for security. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 08:34:00 -
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Wherein calling out neonazi-apologists turns you into 6-year-old college dropouts. |

Father Snuggles
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Posted - 2013.03.28 09:48:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:Wherein calling out neonazi-apologists turns you into 6-year-old college dropouts. I guess it has something to do with you inability to distinguish between AND and OR statements.
Oh, apologies.
Wherein calling out neonazi-apologists turns you into EITHER a 6-year-old OR a college dropout.
Because clearly, only those two groups show a sufficient lack of intelligence that leads them to stoop to such lows as calling out neonazi-apologists, an innocent minority so savagely misunderstood. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:38:00 -
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"Wherein you better agree with Na-ˇzi-ˇ apologists, lest you get smothered with foggy semantics derails." -ˇ |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 10:49:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:Also, additional questions may arise.
You certainly have a knack for understatements there, champ. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 11:17:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:"Wherein you better agree with Na-ˇzi-ˇ apologists, lest you get smothered with foggy semantics derails." -ˇ oh sigh. one picture worth thousand words. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q
Yes, the uneducated masses cruelly proclaiming a guy that openly talked about his racial views and included not one but SIX neonazi rock songs in the soundtrack of his pvp-'magnum opus' (the other 3 might be too, I don't know since I don't know them or speak russian, but since one of them actually included the lyrics "Sieg Heil!" in the chorus, I'm somewhat suspicious) and quotes David Duke as a neonazi and don't want him to represent them regardless of his pvp-prowess.
How dare they?
Such grave prejudice and injustice. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:23:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Do you want to discuss russian rock scene?
Well, since you're openly asking me whether I want to join you in your derail to deflect from the argument you quoted but smartly omitted, my answer is going to have to be:
No, I'd much rather have you comment on what I already wrote. Here, I'll quote it again for your convenience:
Father Snuggles wrote:Yes, the uneducated masses cruelly proclaiming a guy that openly talked about his racial views and included not one but SIX neonazi rock songs in the soundtrack of his pvp-'magnum opus' (the other 3 might be too, I don't know since I don't know them or speak russian, but since one of them actually included the lyrics "Sieg Heil!" in the chorus, I'm somewhat suspicious) and quotes David Duke as a neonazi and don't want him to represent them regardless of his pvp-prowess. How dare they? Such grave prejudice and injustice.
Feel free to refute any of that at your leisure.
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Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:30:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Honestly does the fact he follows a political movement that is almost about to celebrate its 100th anniversary, really matter?
So the creator of that movement and leader of that country was classified as a war criminal. You would be lucky to find many people that were adults during that war.
We have had war criminals leading countries since then and we presumably have followers of their parties in the CSM.
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics?
This just in:
Worshipping Hitler is no longer a no-no because the holocaust is sooo last century. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:40:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Honestly does the fact he follows a political movement that is almost about to celebrate its 100th anniversary, really matter?
So the creator of that movement and leader of that country was classified as a war criminal. You would be lucky to find many people that were adults during that war.
We have had war criminals leading countries since then and we presumably have followers of their parties in the CSM.
So does his RL political views matter to a Games Politics? This just in: Worshipping Hi tler is no longer a no-no because the holocaust is sooo last century. So your suggesting that CCP should ban people in political parties guilty of starting wars of aggression? Well I suppose that will annoy members of the US republican party, The Australian Liberal Party and UK labour party.
You're (you see, it's a contraction of "you are") missing my point, mostly because I didn't suggest CCP take any action based on his campaigning efforts. In fact, I did not suggest any form of action be taken whatsoever. My sole motivation in this thread thus far was to ridicule both the efforts of a nazi whitewashing himself in public and the mindless nazi-apologists pretending there is no problem at all.
On a somewhat-related note, I do believe CCP should both draw-up and enact policies to suppress and/or punish the posting of content related to the support and/or glorification of parties instrumental to the holocaust. But that's just my personal opinion. But this isn't as relevant to this thread as my second opinion:
I do believe that CCP should not suppress or censor people calling nazis out on the forums like they did in the very same campaign thread one "Revedhort, Fon" posted a year ago.
Finally, if you believe that worshipping Hitler, supporting and voicing racial supremacist theories or disseminating content that does so "is a political view", you need to seek professional help.
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Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:49:00 -
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Holy shit, everyone please stop actually discussing similarities/differences between the Holocaust and Iraq, Jesus tapdancing Christ.
Can we get back to the issue at hand, which is mocking the efforts of a CSM candidate to pretend he's not a racial surpemacist or huge fan of KKK-leaders and neonazi-rockbands? |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 15:55:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: do I think neo-nasis suck, yep personally I do but they still have the right to freedom of speech and political association that they would happily deny others.
And we have the freedom to ridicule people that have voluntarily identified themselves as racist, neonazi shitheels when they're pretending to be good community representatives. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 16:11:00 -
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So...how about this Fon Revedhort dude, huh? |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 17:30:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: No frankly I think I have made my point.
I'd like to adamantly go on record saying: No, you most certainly have not. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 17:48:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:Frying Doom wrote: No frankly I think I have made my point.
I'd like to adamantly go on record saying: No, you most certainly have not. Fair enough It is my belief that human rights are worth fighting for, your opinion is that they are not.That is your right.
Once again, I feel like I must go on record to point out that this observation, as well as the solid majority of your arguments in this thread, is catastrophically wrong, but good effort for trying and a great attempt at the whole last word thing.
You should totally go ahead and quote the passage where I said that, though. And, if all else fails, just flood the next couple of pages with some more walls of text, noone will ever be the wiser. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:13:00 -
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Roime wrote: I'm trying to make my mind whether this natsi thing is some crazy Goon propaganda or based on actual facts, and since this thread went places- could someone link something?
I fully support Fon's platform as what comes to this spaceship game, but would like to reserve judgement about this neonatsi thing.
Look at this video which he submitted last year in connection with his CSM candiacy. I'd say "listen to the songs", but they're all neonazi rock drivel, so don't. Instead, take note of this bit from the opening:
http://i.imgur.com/8xq4BOO.png
While he is quoting words from the song "Der Widerstand" by the german neonazi rockband "Sleipnir" (indicating he has a grasp on the lyrics both in the opening and in a later song where he quotes "Den Dolch an der Kehle", which translates into "With the dagger on your throat" when he hits low armor/structure), he lists the docket number as "14/88".
Just go ahead, take a minute and enter "14/88" into Wikipedia. You're welcome.
Then, skipping the horrible songs, including the russian one with acutal "Sieg Heil" in the lyrics, go to the very end where he lists his soundtrack. Just go ahead and google a handful of the bands you see there.
When you're done with that, check out this interview done by Xander Phoena for the CSM 8 elections. Fon Revedhort's real gems are towards the end, where he suddenly pretends to no longer understand english instead of digging himself deeper into the hole he's already in.
And that's just off the top of my head. Others should be more than able to weigh in with his frequent quotes from other places on these forums. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:27:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:Roime wrote: I'm trying to make my mind whether this natsi thing is some crazy Goon propaganda or based on actual facts, and since this thread went places- could someone link something?
I fully support Fon's platform as what comes to this spaceship game, but would like to reserve judgement about this neonatsi thing.
I was going to try to post proof, but then Fon went and did it himself. Also his PVP videos are full of it. Not as bad as what I was expecting but definitely not great that's for sure.
The dude prefixes his pvp-manifesto with "14/88", which stands for the fourteen words of white supremacists (""We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.") and 88, the alphabetical coding of neonazis for "Heil Hitler", the entire soundtrack is neonazi rocksongs and he closes with the quote "For those still daring to remember their roots and live accordingly".
This isn't "as bad as you expected"? What in god's name did you expect? |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 22:24:00 -
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ISD Cura Ursus wrote:OK.
*puts the mop down*
Phew.
That took a while.
OK, let me lay down some ground rules:
1. Discussing the CSM candidate and whether or not he holds a belief is fine. 2. Personal attacks are not allowed. No matter how abhorrent you find another person's belief on the forum, calling them names is not the right course of action. 3. Discussing politics is forbidden. -This means dredging up laws to support your voting decision is off topic and possible trolling. -This also means discussing the relative merits of political groups does not belong here. 4. Keep it civil. This goes with #2.
That being said, I pruned this thread with pretty big shears. I am sure I stepped on quite a few toes with the pruning. If you feel that I removed your post in error, please petition this. Sending me hating evemail regarding my removal of your favorite post will not help.
Do not take my choice in pruning as an endorsement of any particular view of the ideas posited in this thread. I tried to remain as neutral as possible regarding this and keep only posts and ideas relevant to the CSM candidacy. I am only human and I am sure I made mistakes, but if you feel I need a talkin' to, petition it.
Have a nice day and let's try to keep it to the topic at hand...this particular candidate's attempt to be on the CSM.
To put a definite matter on the table:
Since this is a thread for discussing a candidate's qualities as a potential representative for the eve playerbase, I submit that comments a candidate voluntarily offers with regard to his personal beliefs, should they have an impact on the way he would discharge his duties as an elected representative, regardless of the nature of those comments, be they beneficial or adverse to his case. (Notwithstanding violations of forum rules, of course)
Would this statement be correct?
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Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 22:54:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Two step wrote:You guys removed a quote from Fon himself that seems like it should be here. Here it is in its entirety, without the quote of the even more offensive stuff he had originally:
I will avoid bringing up the same objections to the moderation of his thread I brought up last time he ran, but I think ISD and community need to sit down and talk about the standards for this sort of thing. Thanks, dude. And I 100% agree. Either Fod's statements are unacceptable conduct for a would-be CSM member, in which case he should simply be disqualified for the race, or its a matter of free speech and social accountability, and he should be left uncensored as long as he is not targeting individual players for harassment or anything specifically violating forum rules. By sterilizing the forums of anything remotely exposing his blatant racism while allowing him to continue in the race, you're essentially setting yourself up for an increased possibility of him being elected. Then you will have just kicked the PR crisis down the road into a realm with MUCH higher stakes for the company, and caused yourself even further headache.
But they didn't? They left all the relevant comments quoted in other comments calling him out. I'd say they did a fairly good job.
(Totally not discussing moderation here, I'm humbly kissing ass)
ISD Cura Ursus wrote:Father Snuggles wrote: To put a definite matter on the table:
Since this is a thread for discussing a candidate's qualities as a potential representative for the eve playerbase, I submit that comments a candidate voluntarily offers with regard to his personal beliefs, should they have an impact on the way he would discharge his duties as an elected representative, regardless of the nature of those comments, be they beneficial or adverse to his case, are relevant to this threat. (Notwithstanding violations of forum rules, of course)
Would this statement be correct?
Generally, yes. Which is why I tried to leave comments that touched on that subject mostly alone, unlesss they were in reply(quoted) other non acceptable comments. |

Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 23:01:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:Look at this video which he submitted last year in connection with his CSM candiacy. I'd say "listen to the songs", but they're all neonazi rock drivel, so don't. Instead, take note of this bit from the opening: This video was submitted as reaction to stupid trolling campaign my mindless mittani monkeys. =) Something like you can call him names but he's still 1000x better than you ;P
Well shucks, that must make it that much more shameful for him then when people like me calling him "names" prevents him from being elected to the CSM, despite being "1000x better than me".
I have firmly been put in my place. |
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Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 23:11:00 -
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Rythm wrote: You've shown (...) lack of cognitive skills in one short sentence. Well done!
- The guy using 'lol' as punctuation while calling people 'college dropouts'.
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Father Snuggles
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.03.28 23:27:00 -
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Rythm wrote:Father Snuggles wrote:Rythm wrote: You've shown (...) lack of cognitive skills in one short sentence. Well done!
- The guy using 'lol' as punctuation while calling people 'college dropouts'. Are you hurt by the "college dropout" namecalling? Would you like to talk about it? Also you've conviniently omitted 100+ page thread about goonswarm racist drivel. care to explain?
Your inability to make even the most basic connection between quotes nested within eachother is beyond mind-blowing.
Also, goons don't go to college, like, duh, lol, kekeke^^ (-.-)" etc.
(you see, I'm trying to connect wih you here) |
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